August 2018 FA Charges

[HalesowenHarry]

http://www.thefa.com/news/2018/sep/18/f ... ugust-2018

INCIDENT OF MISCONDUCT
Stephen Lynch

3 breaches of FA Rule E10
• It is alleged that Mr Lynch failed to comply with an FA suspension by meeting and discussing team matters with John Hill, Halesowen Town 1st Team Manager, on and around September 2017
• It is alleged that Mr Lynch failed to comply with an FA suspension by making an mail request to Karen Brooks, Chairperson of Halesowen Town FC, to sign a demand in respect of monies owed to Halesowen Town FC, on 10 September 2017
• It is alleged that Mr Lynch failed to comply with an FA suspension by making an email request to Karen Brooks to provide a copy of the players list on 16 September 2017.

‘nil response’ – Paper hearing to be convened.
RESULT:
Proven
5 year suspension from all football and football related activity, effective from 2nd July 2019
Ground ban for all Halesowen Town FC fixtures for the duration of the suspension
Fined £500

good luck geting that £500!!!

[AwayDayYeltz]

Interesting revelations. Especially the discussing team matters charge.

[Yeltz27]

Interesting revelations. Especially the discussing team matters charge.

Yes it’s not good. It’s not just the dreadful football and the revolving door, it’s also things like this, and his behaviour against Rushall last season that make him unsuitable for the position of manager of HTFC. It’s unacceptable and indefensible

[AwayDayYeltz]

Interesting revelations. Especially the discussing team matters charge.

Yes it’s not good. It’s not just the dreadful football and the revolving door, it’s also things like this, and his behaviour against Rushall last season that make him unsuitable for the position of manager of HTFC. It’s unacceptable and indefensible

I'm not sure what the rules are, but can the club itself face any sanctions from being involved with Lynch while banned?

[andy]

Interesting revelations. Especially the discussing team matters charge.

Yes it’s not good. It’s not just the dreadful football and the revolving door, it’s also things like this, and his behaviour against Rushall last season that make him unsuitable for the position of manager of HTFC. It’s unacceptable and indefensible

I'm not sure what the rules are, but can the club itself face any sanctions from being involved with Lynch while banned?

Let's hope not. I would have thought though as HE is the one with the banning order then only HE could violate it. I wouldn't have thought anyone at the club would have broken any rules by being contacted by him.
Thoughts?

[Yeltz27]

Yes it’s not good. It’s not just the dreadful football and the revolving door, it’s also things like this, and his behaviour against Rushall last season that make him unsuitable for the position of manager of HTFC. It’s unacceptable and indefensible

I'm not sure what the rules are, but can the club itself face any sanctions from being involved with Lynch while banned?

Let's hope not. I would have thought though as HE is the one with the banning order then only HE could violate it. I wouldn't have thought anyone at the club would have broken any rules by being contacted by him.
Thoughts?

Point 1 doesn’t say contacted though does it, it says he actually met with John Hill and discussed team matters. John Hill presumably knew the rules when he did so and if he didn’t, he should have done

[andy]

I'm not sure what the rules are, but can the club itself face any sanctions from being involved with Lynch while banned?

Let's hope not. I would have thought though as HE is the one with the banning order then only HE could violate it. I wouldn't have thought anyone at the club would have broken any rules by being contacted by him.
Thoughts?

Point 1 doesn’t say contacted though does it, it says he actually met with John Hill and discussed team matters. John Hill presumably knew the rules when he did so and if he didn’t, he should have done

True. My thought was though that the order was on him, nobody from the club, so they couldn't break it. I may be wrong. Maybe somebody could clarify.

[lutleyyeltz]

I would expect that to be the case, Andy.
The sending of an email to Karen is not of her volition and I assume that this was duly reported to the FA to ensure that the club was in no way complicit in the breaking of the ban imposed on S.Lynch.
As regards the contact with John Hill I would hope that similar action was taken.

[AwayDayYeltz]

I would expect that to be the case, Andy.
The sending of an email to Karen is not of her volition and I assume that this was duly reported to the FA to ensure that the club was in no way complicit in the breaking of the ban imposed on S.Lynch.
As regards the contact with John Hill I would hope that similar action was taken.

The email isn't worrying. You can't stop someone sending you an email, and I trust as soon as it was received it was reported to the relevant authority at the FA.

The meeting of 'football matters', however, would require prior planning and communication, or at least that's how I infer the wording of the charge. It's slightly concerning why a club official is meeting with Lynch, presumably fully aware of Lynch's football ban. It just seems odd given the circumstance.

I can't see how the FA could charge us, as has been pointed out, the club haven't received the ban and can't breach the rules. But it'd be interesting to know for certain.

[KBrookes1]

Hi All

Just seen this email trail can I confirm the following for the avoidance of any doubt:

1. Until I read all of the 600+ pages of the FA disciplinary papers in early September 2017 no one at the Club understood the extent of the ban - they thought it was merely not attending Halesowen Town matches home or away or being at the Ground. Once I understood the extent of the disciplinary penalities I informed the Committee and Management Team that any contact with the owner of any form needed to be reported to me immediately so that I could inform the FA.

2. The reason I needed to inform the FA was based on the fact that whilst my father and I had paid the £10k fines of the owner / Club (£7.5k owner / £2.5k Club), the Club had a £2.5k suspended fine that had we failed to report would be levied - obviously I wanted to avoid this and protect the Club at all costs.

3. Therefore, having advised the management team and committee of the need to report any misdemeanours, the meeting to discuss players/league position etc came to light.

4. John Hill and myself, in my professional opinion, acted in the best interests of the Club, to begin to rebuild/protect our reputation with TheFA, in addition, to avoid a further £2.5k fine and potentially further disciplinary action and if we hadn’t our fans would have been within their right to criticise us.

5. I believe the criticism of John Hill on this issue is unfounded and unwarranted - he did want anyone who loves the Club would do - he acted to protect it.

6. In respect of the Rushall Olympic match, John received his punishment, a red card, for knocking the ball out of Brodie’s hand - in his whole management career, both at Halesowen Town and the other teams he has managed he has never been sent off or even subject to a yellow card. He was fined both by TheFA and the Club. As far as the Club is concerned this matter was dealt with appropriately and is confined to last season.

In respect of fans opinions of John Hill, the management team and the players everyone is entitled to their opinion, as we all are and I make no personal comment.

If anyone wishes to talk to me about this matter please stop and chat at the match today or drop me a line.

Thanks and Up the Yeltz, let’s hope we can get an important win today.

Karen